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#1 HakaTown80

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Posted 09 August 2006 - 10:08 AM

We all do it, we look at how much one team beat another or how the stats. played out to determine how good a team is. There were several teams last year that were pretty dominate that some would say are running up the score. Southlake, Trinity, and several others would be some that come to mind. Unless you see what happened in the game, its hard to tell very much from the stats.It is all a balancing act between how fast you can score and how you can hold the other team from scoring.
At what point do you put the 2nd string in?

There were several games where Trinity was ahead by 45-50 to 0 by halftime. So Lineweaver would put the 2nd string in for the second half. Most of the time our pace of scoring would slow down by alot. In many cases, the other team would begin scoring and would "win the second half", but still lose the game.
We all are guilty of judging a football team by their stats. Many times that just doesn't tell the story at all.
Example: Trinity 42 Plano East 0 at the half.
The second half saw Plano East score 20 and ET score 14.
If I remember right, Plano's scores were by the air, and Trinity had to put the starters back in late in the 3rd and early 4th. Oops, it would have been embarrassing to lose the game after taking your starters out, but as soon as the starters went back in the dominance continued. Plano East had a good defense, so if Trinity would have gone on to the end of the 3rd quarter before pulling in the starters and say they had gotten the score to 56 to 0, would that have been running up the score?
Example:Trinity 50 Irving 7 at halftime.
Just before halftime, on a kickoff, an Irving player was fielding the ball , fumbled and was injured and had to be taken to the hospital. When play resumed, Trinity sent in the 2nd string and downed the ball on the Irving 5 yd line with around 40 seconds til half. I can say, I don't think anyone (players and fans) cared about the remainder of that game because of the concern for the injured player. The game ended ET 50 Irving 14.
I realize that some would say that Trinity ran up the score on some teams last year, but I am proud of the way that our coach (Lineweaver) managed the games when it came to showing some respect to the fine teams that we played.

Someone that using stats to determine how good a team is can miss the detail that the 2nd half was played with back-ups. There is another message board that one (so-called) expert has used the PLano East game to say that Trinity lost the 2nd half to East and that is the reason that he ranks them #9 in the metroplex.

Edited by HakaTown80, 09 August 2006 - 01:31 PM.


#2 kinyoxp

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Posted 09 August 2006 - 10:51 AM

It's football. Some teams win, others lose.

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Posted 13 August 2006 - 11:03 AM

Gregory-Portland was up 42-0 on Mission Vets Memorial in the playoffs in 2004...at halftime. And they already had the second string in. The 2nd half was mostly played by 3rd string and even backup JV players who outscored Mission Vets Memorial in the 2nd half by the score of 35-0 for a final score of 77-0. And they were just handing off up the middle every play. Sometimes it just falls into your lap.

#4 dudley dawson "booger"

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Posted 13 August 2006 - 11:18 PM

We all do it, we look at how much one team beat another or how the stats. played out to determine how good a team is. There were several teams last year that were pretty dominate that some would say are running up the score. Southlake, Trinity, and several others would be some that come to mind. Unless you see what happened in the game, its hard to tell very much from the stats.It is all a balancing act between how fast you can score and how you can hold the other team from scoring.
At what point do you put the 2nd string in?

There were several games where Trinity was ahead by 45-50 to 0 by halftime. So Lineweaver would put the 2nd string in for the second half. Most of the time our pace of scoring would slow down by alot. In many cases, the other team would begin scoring and would "win the second half", but still lose the game.
We all are guilty of judging a football team by their stats. Many times that just doesn't tell the story at all.
Example: Trinity 42 Plano East 0 at the half.
The second half saw Plano East score 20 and ET score 14.
If I remember right, Plano's scores were by the air, and Trinity had to put the starters back in late in the 3rd and early 4th. Oops, it would have been embarrassing to lose the game after taking your starters out, but as soon as the starters went back in the dominance continued. Plano East had a good defense, so if Trinity would have gone on to the end of the 3rd quarter before pulling in the starters and say they had gotten the score to 56 to 0, would that have been running up the score?
Example:Trinity 50 Irving 7 at halftime.
Just before halftime, on a kickoff, an Irving player was fielding the ball , fumbled and was injured and had to be taken to the hospital. When play resumed, Trinity sent in the 2nd string and downed the ball on the Irving 5 yd line with around 40 seconds til half. I can say, I don't think anyone (players and fans) cared about the remainder of that game because of the concern for the injured player. The game ended ET 50 Irving 14.
I realize that some would say that Trinity ran up the score on some teams last year, but I am proud of the way that our coach (Lineweaver) managed the games when it came to showing some respect to the fine teams that we played.

Someone that using stats to determine how good a team is can miss the detail that the 2nd half was played with back-ups. There is another message board that one (so-called) expert has used the PLano East game to say that Trinity lost the 2nd half to East and that is the reason that he ranks them #9 in the metroplex.

do you got any links to that haka dance yall do!! i've been trying to find a good one but cant

#5 LoboFan07

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Posted 14 August 2006 - 01:28 AM

do you got any links to that haka dance yall do!! i've been trying to find a good one but cant


http://www.youtube.c...A...ted&search=

Theres the rugby team (I think thats the sports anyways..that or soccer LOL) that does it. Couldn't find one that has Trinity doing it.




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