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Posted 09 March 2004 - 07:27 AM

For those of you on 3ADownLow who didnt catch what I had to say before the admin shut the board down for a bit, here's a bit of a summary....

i complemented Slpybear the Bullfan on his comments... back bearcat on her position of what was going on.. then I gave a Jacket2000 a new ***hole for his lack of leadership on the board. :angry: In no way do I think that board will survive as long as Jacket is around. Hell, I should have copied my comments and put them here too. Most of you would have have gotten a real good kick out of it.

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Posted 09 March 2004 - 08:02 AM

Why don't you??

I need to read it again, to remind myself why I am still so mad today!! :angry:

Edited by Ranger Mom, 09 March 2004 - 08:06 AM.


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Posted 09 March 2004 - 08:04 AM

once the board comes back up i will be adding it here so every member this board will see what is going on over there

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Posted 09 March 2004 - 08:14 AM

its not just jacket...believe me

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Posted 09 March 2004 - 08:19 AM

iven been a member of the downlow for years and i can say that jacket has never been a problem to the board...what he said yesterday was uncalled for...or let me put it this way...the way he said it was uncalled for. here is the problem....people that have been on the board for a shorter period of time that I have a problem with me voicing my opinion in a calm, polite manner...and i get sent PM's with threats and obsenitites...thats where the problem lies...not with Jacket...its the few ignorant members of the board that screw up the whole thing

Edited by kaorder1999, 09 March 2004 - 08:20 AM.


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Posted 09 March 2004 - 08:46 AM

A few "ignorant" posters can only mess up a board if you LET them mess up a board.

I, for one, think the whole thing is just plain ridiculous. It has been hashed and re-hashed.....the horse is DEAD!!

The arguing going on now about it is more childish than the prank (completely harmless one, at that) EVER was!!

GROW UP!!!

It's a freakin message board for goodness sakes!!

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Posted 09 March 2004 - 09:04 AM

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This board has been THE most successful HSFB board in the state of Texas, and probably one of the best in the nation.
There was a HUGE practical joke played on our website. JOKE. Not only were some of the members in on it, but also some of the administrators. We are soon to be getting new software and this was a fun way in the offseason to play around before the switch.
I am completely amazed at how indignant and pompous some members are acting after the joke was over. Most of these posters I have seen on the Downlow for a while. Most have said many times that if you don't like a topic, just ignore it. And most of these 'disgruntled' posters have enjoyed participating in off-season, sensless, fun and games topics themselves.
I have tried to be friendly to all on this site. I hope I have come across that way to all. If I haven't, I truly am sorry.
Here is the tough part... If anyonewants to leave because...
a.) They feel this site is a joke.
b.) They feel this site is good but others say it is a joke.
c.) They are still angry because they were fooled by the joke.
...then adios. Good luck and see you down the road. If that is as strong as your membership is to this site, then please do not feel obligated to stay. I do not mean that in a rude way, just saying what needs to be said.
If your membership is not strong enough to weather a practical joke in the offseason, then it is probably just a matter of time before something else offends you or attracts you to a different site.
If you feel the need to leave or resign, then there are probably many factors in that decision, not just one. And it is probably better to go.
This great website will continue to be a great community because of its great community.
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Slpybear, I applaud you and I agree with you 100%. This site and mine are probably two best sites dedicated to Texas HS Football. It has taken Matt, Gobbla, bearcat and Jacket2000 more energy to keep this site going than most of you will ever dream of. If you want to complain about service, dont do it in front of them or myself. If you think for one second the five of us do not care about how far we take our sites.. oooh you are surely mistaken.

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I have a few things to say about the incidents last night.
First of all, I understand those who got upset at the dishonesty associated with it. But I cant think for the life of me, of a practical joke that is not dishonest. It's what makes it a joke.
Now I'm not defending anyone, because sometimes jokes just aren't funny. Yes, this was a great website. Guess what, it still is a great website. We had one night where some joksters got together and pulled a prank, and it was funny to some and not so funny to others,and everyone has the right to form their own opinion of it. Whatever your feelings, it amazes me that you could be so quick to dismiss this board as a joke and no longer want to visit it. Alot of hard work has gone into this site, and yes some got carried away. I doubt it would ever happen again considering the backlash.
All I've heard is how much more you like this board than others, how happy you are here, but one night something happens that upsets you and you are ready to leave?
PPHS has apologized if he went over the top. We havent heard from Matt, but I am sure if he knew how upset some of you were he would feel bad as well. I do know that nobody involved meant any harm, and I do know that several involved feel GREAT REMORSE at this time for upsetting any of you. That was never anyone's intention.
People make mistakes. We aren't perfect, any of us. If they were claryvoyant, and could have seen how upset some of you would have been, it never would of happened. Unfortunately, nobody here has the power to predict the future or the outcome of our actions all the time. All we can do is learn from our mistakes. That is unfortunate but it's also what makes us human.
People make errors in judgement all the time. And because it upset some people, I'd consider this an error in judgment. Is that enough to cause you to never return? Is one error in judgment and misplaced prank enough to cause you to dismiss this site as a joke, and cause you to no longer want to associate with those whom you considered friends not 48 hours ago?
I don't know the whole story here. I don't know the purpose of the prank, or what started it, and I wasn't involved in its inception. But I myself played along when I got wind of it, as a matter of fact I suggested to someone that we play a "prank" on the pranksters during the whole thing. But that never materialized because in the middle of it all, I discovered that this had upset someone I care a great deal for, and I had participated in it, and it suddenly wasn't so funny anymore.
Never once did it cross my mind that anyone here would be so angry or upset about it that they'd be ready to leave. I just didn't think, like many of the others involved here. Hindsight is 20/20 and I'm sure that doesn't mean much to some of you, but it's all I can offer. I can't erase it or time travel to stop it. So I, too, made an error in judgment last night. And I'm sorry for that.
I will try very hard to think things through more completely and choose my participation in jokes more wisely in the future. I am sure the others involved feel the same way.
That's my apology and that's my comment on this whole ordeal, and if that isn't good enough, then I'm truly sorry, and will miss each of you who chooses to leave.
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I have known bearcat since the beginning of this site... lets see.. at least since the days we talked on the pig. She has a right to be just as upset as anyone can be.

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Last summer, me and Matt decided that this site had gotten to be alot more work than it was fun. So, we decided to scale it down, since most of the site was the message board anyway. Since then, Ive had some personal issues with it anyway, but now Im just downright embarrassed. This site is somethin' that I used to be pretty damned proud of, but now look at it. Having fun is one thing, but this is just childish. So, call me a party pooper if ya want, but you can keep it. Im done.
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Jacket, let me tell you something dude. I know for a fact that you were not one of the originals of this site, everyne else here knows it. But thats not an issue. What's important is, you care about this thing. You care just as much as most of the posters here. You care about the image of this site just as much as I care about my own operation. I have spent day and night working my site. I am disappointed in the way you are taking this. You take all your time in to this you can and just because of some silly and stupid prank, you are just going to drop everything and quit. That is not not how a leader should be acting. I know you are embarrassed. It is completely understandable and we are all probably understandably upset. I dont know if its an issue of pride with you or whether its an issue of ego. But I do know that if you up and leave because of this, its showing that you dont know how to handle problems or you dont know what it takes to be a leader.

I dont like to see a site like this go down the drain. Frankly it pisses me off. If this site is going to survive, everyone should realize their mistakes, apologize and everyone should come to a complete understanding on what to expect from each other.

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Posted 09 March 2004 - 10:14 AM

I have been a member of 3a downlow for awhile now i just don't post on there cuz i really don't know much about 3a. but i do like to read.

What exactly was the Joke that was played out??

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Posted 09 March 2004 - 10:29 AM

We had a 14 yr old kid start a word association thread over there...it took off like wildfire. One of the other posters was tired of it and AS A JOKE said he was gonna close the topic.

WEll the next thing we know, it is closed! But....it wasn't that guy hacking into the system it was the help of one of the moderators/owners/admin...whatever the heck he his.

That was basically the start of it....no one was hurt by it, but some felt it was childish...maybe it was. I am 40 years old and I thought it was funny!! (Of course, I was in on the joke so I never got bent out of shape about it)!

Evidently another poster was able to get in and change some stuff after it was all over. Don't know much about what happened then, it all went kinda crazy.

Admins were arguing with moderators, people we resigning then popping back up...it was CRAZY!!!

If people would have just accepted it for the joke it was, it would have been find. They get rid of the guy who hacked in yesterday.

It was all blown out of proportion and the whole thing is just ridiculous!!

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Posted 09 March 2004 - 10:51 AM

i agree...the only thing i didnt like about the entire situation was the fact it showed that nobody really had a clue about what going on. admin arguing with moderators...moderators arguing with members...blah blah blah....you know...it was all a joke to begin with...and believe me...i was laughing my $&* off....but it should have all ended.....with no more jokes. It's sad that i sat there last night not knowing if i could trust what the admin was telling me. had no idea if i could trust him. Everything that Jacket was saying was making sense. Not only because i know him but because i had the same feelings myself about it all. I think we were being lied to...to keep "them" from coming out and saying they were doing it. And all of a sudden...someone is caught "read-handed". Please...i dont think so...oh well...doesnt really matter anyway i guess...im just still really p-o'd about the PM i received from the person who was playing a "harmless" joke.

Edited by kaorder1999, 09 March 2004 - 10:54 AM.


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Posted 09 March 2004 - 10:57 AM

chris...you keep using that slpybear quote for your statements but what you have to think about is this...

all the events of last night had NOTHING to do with the practical joke that PPHSFan pulled off. Nothing at all. There were other things that happened after the joke that made people mad, including myself! and that is what has really made Jacket mad...everyone keeps telling him he needs to be able to take a joke and all of that but what he is mad about right now has nothing to do with the joke that was pulled off.

hes mad at the fact that people who have been on the board for less time then me are laughing at my opinion (that i delivered in a calm and collected manner) and dropping "F" bombs in private messages and sending threats. yet...that person who is doing that to me is just playing a "harmless" joke on everybody. THATS JUST ONE EXAMPLE OF MANY

Edited by kaorder1999, 09 March 2004 - 11:05 AM.


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Posted 09 March 2004 - 11:09 AM

Kaorder...I read the PM.....and yes, it was harsh! That's why it was sent in a PM.

I know I have said alot worse than that when I was mad! (not saying it was right) You gotta let stuff like that roll of of you or you will be a miserable person in life.

You have 2 choices to make, you can rant and rave and seeth over something someone said to you in a private message, or you can read it for what it was and go on.

Anyway, enough of the Dr. Laura crap!

I choose to go on, I wasn't hurt by this, didn't lose my job, didn't lose any friends, (actually, I made quite a few new ones because of it) it really didn't affect my live one way or the other.

It made for a really interesting night on the board though!! :D

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Posted 09 March 2004 - 11:14 AM

u read one of the four...i'll stop...

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Posted 10 March 2004 - 06:24 AM

kaorder, I don't know exactly what he said to you, but he did tell me he thought you were'nt helping matters any. I know he bears no ill feelings toward you. I'm pretty sure he was venting frustration at the fact that it was getting blown out of proportion. I hope you hang with the site. You're a good guy.

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Posted 10 March 2004 - 11:35 AM

im hanging with the site...but i'll tell you what...in my job i'm frustrated daily...but i would never talk to soeone like he talked to me....but...thats over....im glad the site is back to normal...thanks for your help and patience with goofs like me!!!

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Posted 10 March 2004 - 07:45 PM


:lol: IMHO, I think 3ADL is a very nice message board. I wouldn't let what some jerk said to me in a private message bother me one bit. Just bozo them, or whatever you do on 3ADL, if you don't want to read messages from a particular person.

If Jacket is pissed and wants to take his marbles and go home, then so be it. He's the one losing out. A joke is a joke. People need to just get over it and move on. No harm done.

Bottom line is be glad we still have 3ADL to post messages with our friends. :P


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Posted 11 March 2004 - 07:02 AM

:jerry:
wow, a joke, that's all it is....a joke. Life moves on and the forum will hopefully grow, not separate over this one issue
GO JERRY GO!

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Posted 12 March 2004 - 04:33 AM

Well said! I 'm going to stick around. :D

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Posted 12 March 2004 - 08:25 AM

We had a 14 yr old kid start a word association thread over there...it took off like wildfire. One of the other posters was tired of it and AS A JOKE said he was gonna close the topic.

WEll the next thing we know, it is closed! But....it wasn't that guy hacking into the system it was the help of one of the moderators/owners/admin...whatever the heck he his.

That was basically the start of it....no one was hurt by it, but some felt it was childish...maybe it was. I am 40 years old and I thought it was funny!! (Of course, I was in on the joke so I never got bent out of shape about it)!

Pardon me for butting into something that is none of my business...

That was it? That doesn't seem like that big a deal at all. Surely there must be more to this story than that for all these people to be in an uproar?

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Posted 12 March 2004 - 08:27 AM

What is the URL for 3A Down Low?




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