lorenzo wrote: " I think their may have been some mis-understanding and differences that were blown way out of left field. like exporter said....people were careful with their words. and you have to be because one word can be mis-understood. I know a few months ago I made a comment about jesus/peter and wasn't real clear. exporter....you kind of went off on me in correction when in fact I was in the same boat with you. but because i wasn't clear with my comment you mis-understood me. sometimes that's all that happens with these arguements. and often times I say things the wrong way...... "
Absolutely correct lorenzo!
At West Point the entire first semester in their Englich Classes the time is spent in learning to write ONE long paragraph on one topic in such a manner that is has only One Meaning. They have to do that since Army officers do write Orders that cannot be misunderstood. I have talked to several Cadets who were very smart men who found out they had trouble writing for explicite meaning.
In my experience I have found one of the most difficult tasks is to write whats in your brain so that another brain can understand exactly what had been writen. The transfer of thoughts or ideas through the writen word is difficult!
If we consider that on this football board there are so many different personalities, so many differewnt backgrounds evaluating these posts - it's not surprising that some will misunderstand. Then top that off with with a non-football topic such as prayer and we have not only egoes but childhood training mucking up the communication.
Finally. There were two different approaches ( for lack of a better word.) to one basic Christian practice. One ignored what the original Christians ( Early Fathers or Apostles) had writen and the other agreed with the Apostles and the men who actually knew those Apostles. In a way these two opponents could not understand the language of the other. So the misunderstanding contenued. Thanks for your comments lorenzo, they were helpful.

Addendum: Lorenzo, you say "I got off on you once about Peter/Jesus" I looked and this is what I see that I said to you.
"Lorenzo, I have a new found admiration for your thoughts and your posts. Why is that?
The last post you made was very thoughtful and demonstrated restraint while it did get
your points across. Thanks Lorenzo. Also I agree that perhaps over half of the so-called Christians
are not comptetely sincere in their practice of their faith ( including prayer). Many in my church
are almost ignorant of basic church teachings in spite of the efforts put forth by the Church. I suppose that's
true in other denominational churches too" I might have made reference that Jesus was talking to Peter and I misunderstood you. All is O.K.