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[whoat222004]

Lakeland by many peoples standards is a great program.. They have no discipline nor are they well conditioned.
Same thing at Glenville Ohio..
Same thing at LBP.
Same thing at Camden County.
Same thing at Oscar Smith.

Bosco proved it by. Beating up on OOS teams, deemed "great" and "greatly conditioned and well disciplined". Not because the comp here is bad...

Let me remind you the only team to give Bosco a game this year was Bergen Catholic (nj), 28-21.

Lakeland has a more impressive resume in OOS games than Bosco. And who the heck are you to say Lakeland is not conditioned well? The discipline issue was a factor in only one OOS game-DLS this year. And really, that was just an issue in the 2nd quarter of that game. Ask the folks at St. X or Pittsburgh Central Catholic if Lakeland has a discipline issue. Even concha-who never misses an opportunity to put down teams from outside of Ohio-would tell you that the Lakeland team that beat St. X had no discipline issues.
None of the schools you mention after Lakeland have done what Lakeland has in OOS games. Nor have they accomplisehed what Lakeland has within its own state.

Edited by whoat222004, 01 February 2010 - 08:23 AM.

[whoat222004]

Either which way, this won't be a game. Just like I said about Prattville.. That game should've never been played. It was 24-0 and Bosco was rotating in sophomores in the first half.. That's awful. Eventually Prattville caught up after Bosco got comfortable, and them boom the doors came back off again. We should've sent St. Peters to 'Bama for Prattville.. Would've been a better game. On the contrary to what most of you think, I'm a fan of great football.. And unfortunately, I haven't been able to see some of the elite teams around the country, although I have seen a few.. So I want to see the big name guys play Bosco/Prep/Bergen on TV.. Win or lose, IDC! just wanna see some great damn games!


This game doesn't intrigue me, not one bit.

I'd rather a rematch with St. Xavier, a game with STAQ, St. Ignatius, Byrnes, John Curtis.. or even a game in Texas against a Texas powerhouse.. Hell I'd rather see them play Dematha or Good Counsel... I'd like to see them get three OOS games.. I don't care if they win or lose, I just want some better competition.. Regardless, SPP will probably be the team to beat in Jersey this year (on paper)... I'd like to see who their matching up with OOS.. They have the best tailback in the country.

I just want a bigger name team to play Bosco.. No offense to Manatee, I just don't think they will give DBP much of a game, even on an off year. I could be wrong, JMO.

You are so full of shiite it's unbelievable.

[whoat222004]

Bergen catholic, opradell NJ, is the ONLY team to give Bosco a game this year.. What part of that do you not comprehend? If you've never seen anybody in Jersey play, what makes you think Bosco is the only good team???

SJR, Hackensack, Bergen Catholic, Piscataway, St. Peters prep and Don Bosco Prep have all been nationally recognized this decade.

Because some guy in the middle of Texas who spells his states name with a "J" says there's only one good team here makes it true? Did you just get the internet? Do you have television? Did you not see the Will Hill led Sþ. Peters prep team on ESPN two years ago?


If we don't have any competition here, then Bama and California really must suck, eh? Bergen Catholic was a NJ team with 3 in state losses... No oos losses... They didn't even make it past the semis... Lolol. Yet DLS couldn't stay within the mercy rule. And Prattville was out of the game 12 minutes in.

Prattville was out of the game 12 minutes in? That's funny. Must have been the JV game I was watching where Prattville was winning in the second half. You had one great quarter against Prattville. Then rallied in the 4th quarter to win. Nice win. But don't continue to misrepresent what happened. Aren't you aware this isn't 1984 anymore? People have access to view these games. You can't tell old wives tales about what happened the way people did back then. The win over DLS was a product of a) Cathching them early in the year when they were at their weakest and playing lights out with the benefit of home field advantage. If they rematch that game on a neutral field the game goes down to the wire.

[whoat222004]

How could you have an argument for or against DBP when you've never seen them play? You make less and less sense with each post.

I wouldn't sit here and say a team was either good nor bad that I've never seen before. And you certainly aren't basing your opinion on writers' opinions because there's been several other teams from NJ on the national scene in the past 5 years alone.

So how do you foprmulate such a blanket statement, I'm curious to know?


One more thing- out of last years 7 first round picks from NJ, 0 went to Bosco and only one played in Boscos league...

Out of this years projected 4 maybe 5 first round picks from nj, only one went to Bosco and none others even played in that league.. In fact two went to the same high school.. Kyle wilson (boise) and anthony davis, rutgers, both played at Piscataway along with the first DB taken in last years draft, malcolm jenkins... Yeah, kyle and malcolm played opposite each other at corner and receiver... Anthony played o and D line.. Not too bad for a public school in a state with no depth....

Producing a handful of NFL prospects doesn't mean the state is loaded with great teams. All Jersey has is a handful of teams that have a handful of elite players. That's completely different than what Texas, Florida, California etc have.

[whoat222004]

The fact that people are arguing over shot-putting just shows how they will argue blindly for anything from their own state.

[steeler 01]

Whoat with the KO

[Tejas]

Lakeland has a more impressive resume in OOS games than Bosco. And who the heck are you to say Lakeland is not conditioned well? The discipline issue was a factor in only one OOS game-DLS this year. And really, that was just an issue in the 2nd quarter of that game. Ask the folks at St. X or Pittsburgh Central Catholic if Lakeland has a discipline issue. Even concha-who never misses an opportunity to put down teams from outside of Ohio-would tell you that the Lakeland team that beat St. X had no discipline issues.
None of the schools you mention after Lakeland have done what Lakeland has in OOS games. Nor have they accomplisehed what Lakeland has within its own state.

And that was early in the year. You get in better game shape as the season goes on.

[Tejas]

The fact that people are arguing over shot-putting just shows how they will argue blindly for anything from their own state.

Just trying to tell the kid he didn't know what he was talking about. Michael Carter went on to SMU for football and track and field and played for the San Fran 49'ers and and won a silver medal in the summer Olympics. The kid from jersey is far from the "best" field athlete of all time.

I'll give him lacrosse, wrestling, and field hockey, though, because they need something to feel good about.

[GMCGURU000]

Producing a handful of NFL prospects doesn't mean the state is loaded with great teams. All Jersey has is a handful of teams that have a handful of elite players. That's completely different than what Texas, Florida, California etc have.

Don't say "Florida" and "Great Teams" in the same sentance anymore... You guys have great athletes.. The best anywhere probably... But playing two seasons a year in extremely favorable weather is the reason for that.. Not because your bred any different down there.. considering 80 percent of your states population is imported from around my neck of the woods.

Come play in a blizzard, below freezing weather.. let's see how "great" you guys are then..



FWIW- against PCC, It's always easy to be disciplined when your up 21 early on.
That Lakeland/X game was 3 years ago. Nobody on this years team was on the field then.. Every year you field a different team.. this year you guys were full of light in the pants miscreants who respect nobody. And that's precisely why your guys were leaving the field on stretchers and getting hit in the face like you've never been hit before by a team that got demolished by 24 a week prior.. That thug attitude can stay @ home.

Lakeland is the equivalent to the U(as in "U"sed to be good).. A bunch of thugs that slam their helmets when things aren't going there way and get stupid penalties because their so used to everybody telling them how great they are.. That "Go Long, im gonna throw it as far as I can" attitude would've gotten Lakeland THROTTLED by a great team.
I would've taken SEVERAL teams in NJ to demolish them this year.. Including an off the mark Wayne Hills team. Castle has no control over his players when things aren't going in their favor.. I'd be absolutely embarrassed to be a fan of a team of with that mindset.. a bunch of freakin primadonna pansies.. Give me a freakin break.

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I would've taken SEVERAL teams in NJ to demolish them this year.. Including an off the mark Wayne Hills team. Castle has no control over his players when things aren't going in their favor.. I'd be absolutely embarrassed to be a fan of a team of with that mindset.. a bunch of freakin primadonna pansies.. Give me a freakin break.

I watched Wayne Hills. They would have been killed by Lakeland.

[whoat222004]

Don't say "Florida" and "Great Teams" in the same sentance anymore... You guys have great athletes.. The best anywhere probably... But playing two seasons a year in extremely favorable weather is the reason for that.. Not because your bred any different down there.. considering 80 percent of your states population is imported from around my neck of the woods.

Come play in a blizzard, below freezing weather.. let's see how "great" you guys are then..



FWIW- against PCC, It's always easy to be disciplined when your up 21 early on.
That Lakeland/X game was 3 years ago. Nobody on this years team was on the field then.. Every year you field a different team.. this year you guys were full of light in the pants miscreants who respect nobody. And that's precisely why your guys were leaving the field on stretchers and getting hit in the face like you've never been hit before by a team that got demolished by 24 a week prior.. That thug attitude can stay @ home.

Lakeland is the equivalent to the U(as in "U"sed to be good).. A bunch of thugs that slam their helmets when things aren't going there way and get stupid penalties because their so used to everybody telling them how great they are.. That "Go Long, im gonna throw it as far as I can" attitude would've gotten Lakeland THROTTLED by a great team.
I would've taken SEVERAL teams in NJ to demolish them this year.. Including an off the mark Wayne Hills team. Castle has no control over his players when things aren't going in their favor.. I'd be absolutely embarrassed to be a fan of a team of with that mindset.. a bunch of freakin primadonna pansies.. Give me a freakin break.

Why Florida has the talent they have is irrelevant to the discussion. All that matters is they do have loads of talent and that's one heck of a great start towards having great teams. And why would the prospect of crummy weather ruining a playing surface etc prove one team is really good?

Guys leaving the field in stretchers? LMAO. ONE player left on a stretcher, after a great hit from a guy the player didn't see coming.

DLS got beat 30-6 TWO weeks prior, in a game where they traveled 3,000 miles to play in front of DB's fans. After the embarrasing defeat, the excellent DLS coaching staff spent those two weeks working the heck out of their kids. A much more determined and desperate DLS team took the field to play Lakeland. And the circumstances were reversed: DLS' opponent was the the one that had to travel 3,000 miles and play in front of DLS' fans. The result? A win for Lakeland nearly identical in nature to the win DB had over DLS when they faced the same travel circumstances Lakeland did.

Following the bolded parts of your quote above, on one hand you mention how each year is a different team, then on another hand you refer to Lakeland in the present tense like they're the same every year.

"Used" to be good? I guess a 13-1 season where you beat the California state champs (Open Division) in a road game on ESPN doesn't constitute being "good". LOL It's obvious you're taking your (very biased) observations from one Lakeland game and have looped Lakeland in with any other team you ever watched that appeared to be a fast team. It's laughable that you make such sweeping conclusions and generalizations off of one biased viewing of one game.

Edited by whoat222004, 01 February 2010 - 10:09 AM.

[whoat222004]

With regards to the actual topic of this thread, I think Manatee-Bosco would have been a pretty good game in 2009. Don't know enough about the 2010 teams to guess what would happen.

[GMCGURU000]

Why Florida has the talent they have is irrelevant to the discussion. All that matters is they do have loads of talent and that's one heck of a great start towards having great teams. And why would the prospect of crummy weather ruining a playing surface etc prove one team is really good?

Guys leaving the field in stretchers? LMAO. ONE player left on a stretcher, after a great hit from a guy the player didn't see coming.

DLS got beat 30-6 TWO weeks prior, in a game where they traveled 3,000 miles to play in front of DB's fans. After the embarrasing defeat, the excellent DLS coaching staff spent those two weeks working the heck out of their kids. A much more determined and desperate DLS team took the field to play Lakeland. And the circumstances were reversed: DLS' opponent was the the one that had to travel 3,000 miles and play in front of DLS' fans. The result? A win for Lakeland nearly identical in nature to the win DB had over DLS when they faced the same travel circumstances Lakeland did.

Following the bolded parts of your quote above, on one hand you mention how each year is a different team, then on another hand you refer to Lakeland in the present tense like they're the same every year.

"Used" to be good? I guess a 13-1 season where you beat the California state champs (Open Division) in a road game on ESPN doesn't constitute being "good". LOL It's obvious you're taking your (very biased) observations from one Lakeland game and have looped Lakeland in with any other team you ever watched that appeared to be a fast team. It's laughable that you make such sweeping conclusions and generalizations off of one biased viewing of one game.

Disciplined teams don't act that way, EVER. And if the team has any kind of order, those players CRYING on the sideline and slamming their helmets wouldn't get back into the game. Ever see DLS players act like that?? Even down 30-6 they were helping Bosco guys up off the ground after the play.. Not slamming their helmets... Not crying on the sideline.. I use DLS as an example because of their reputation as being extremely well disciplined.. But overall, you NEVER see a team that's so called "disciplined" acting like a bunch of vaginas on the field like your DreadNOTs were doing.



And FWIW... After all of this... Myron Rolle, Will Hill and Jerome Murphy (all from Jersey) are the three best NFL prospects from each of their respective teams, all loaded with these phenomenol Florida athletes... Coincidence...

[GMCGURU000]

I watched Wayne Hills. They would have been killed by Lakeland.

I would hope so- Wayne Hills didn't even win a sectional this year.

[GMCGURU000]

With regards to the actual topic of this thread, I think Manatee-Bosco would have been a pretty good game in 2009. Don't know enough about the 2010 teams to guess what would happen.

Bosco isn't going to be anything to write home about this year.

[whoat222004]

Disciplined teams don't act that way, EVER. And if the team has any kind of order, those players CRYING on the sideline and slamming their helmets wouldn't get back into the game. Ever see DLS players act like that?? Even down 30-6 they were helping Bosco guys up off the ground after the play.. Not slamming their helmets... Not crying on the sideline.. I use DLS as an example because of their reputation as being extremely well disciplined.. But overall, you NEVER see a team that's so called "disciplined" acting like a bunch of vaginas on the field like your DreadNOTs were doing.



And FWIW... After all of this... Myron Rolle, Will Hill and Jerome Murphy (all from Jersey) are the three best NFL prospects from each of their respective teams, all loaded with these phenomenol Florida athletes... Coincidence...

Can you specify what it is Lakeland did that a disciplined team "never" does? Is Florida not disciplined because Tim Tebow cried on the sideline during the Alabama game?

[whoat222004]

Can you specify what it is Lakeland did that a disciplined team "never" does? Is Florida not disciplined because Tim Tebow cried on the sideline during the Alabama game?

Having three studs from a state doesn't mean that state is better or as good as any other state. You don't want me to start naming the studs from Florida, do you? And Will Hill being Florida's best NFL prospect would be news to everybody who follows college and pro ball. Carlos Dunlap, Joe Haden, Janorris Jenkins and Maurkice Pouncey all outshine Hill right now.

[nptb]

As far as track and field is concerned, Texas and California put out the best athletes hands down. From top to bottom in all events, it's not close. There is so much depth in those two states it's not even funny. Also, a shot putter should never ever be considered in the discussion of greatest track and field athletes of all time.

As far as Lakeland and discipline is concerned, 1 or 2 kids doesn't make a whole team not disciplined. Also they were getting homered in the game against DLS in my opinion and that can be really hard to take. Bosco was crowned the national champs. Good for them. If you put that team up against some of the past mythical national champions, they can't hold a candle imo.

[GMCGURU000]

Having three studs from a state doesn't mean that state is better or as good as any other state. You don't want me to start naming the studs from Florida, do you? And Will Hill being Florida's best NFL prospect would be news to everybody who follows college and pro ball. Carlos Dunlap, Joe Haden, Janorris Jenkins and Maurkice Pouncey all outshine Hill right now.

Will Hill is the highest rated NFL prospect on the roster. He's ranked as the top safety in his class and projects as a top ten pick. Urban Meyer went on record saying he's the best athlete the team has. He displaced Major Wright, another NFL prospect as a true sophomore. I assure you, there's not a better prospect on that team. But beyond that, I wasn't saying we have better athletes then Florida.. Just simply saying you'd think a Floridian would appreciate Jetrsey talent as we have the best athletes on your best college teams. Next year you'll watch Josh Evans explode at UF... And Brendan Beal and Justin Trattou aren't exactly slouches. Just sayin...

[whoat222004]

Will Hill is the highest rated NFL prospect on the roster. He's ranked as the top safety in his class and projects as a top ten pick. Urban Meyer went on record saying he's the best athlete the team has. He displaced Major Wright, another NFL prospect as a true sophomore. I assure you, there's not a better prospect on that team. But beyond that, I wasn't saying we have better athletes then Florida.. Just simply saying you'd think a Floridian would appreciate Jetrsey talent as we have the best athletes on your best college teams. Next year you'll watch Josh Evans explode at UF... And Brendan Beal and Justin Trattou aren't exactly slouches. Just sayin...

If exaggeration, hyperbole and misrepresentation of reality was an artform, GMC might outshine Picasso.