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Why an 0-10 team could make the playoffs in 2013


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#1 TexasHSFootball

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Posted 03 July 2013 - 02:55 PM

We raised this observation up on twitter @texashsfootball and here is the droppings of why an 0-10 team could potentially make the playoffs in 2013:

Back in the original realignment 11-3A was assigned six teams. One of which is a basketball-only school in Irving. The football schools assigned to the district were Dallas Madison, Dallas Roosevelt, Ferris, Wilmer-Hutchins and Prime Prep Academy. Of course we all know the story of Prime Prep. Half way through the 2012 season, Deion Sanders' Prime Prep Academy would immediately drop out of the UIL after facing a mountain of scrutiny and penalties. That left 11-3A with just four football schools. Interesting to note, last season, Class 3A had three teams advancing to the playoffs.

 

Fast forward to the 2013 season.. a fourth team added to the playoffs for each district in 3A and 2A takes effect this season. Giving two teams each in Division I and Division II. This also moved the 3A Division I Championship to the same weekend as the other UIL 11-Man State Championship Games. Of course, 5A and 4A already have four teams in each district advancing.

 

Now that we have that out of the way, 11-3A still has four teams in its district. 

2012 11-3A Standings
Ferris (5-5, 2-1)
Dallas Madison (5-6, 2-1)
Wilmer-Hutchins (4-6, 1-2)

Dallas  Roosevelt (2-7, 1-2)

With the fourth team added to the playoffs, all four 11-3A teams have automatically qualified under the new playoff structure implemented by the UIL in the 2013 season. That brings up the question of why the UIL could not wait until the new 2014 realignment to take place for the new playoff structure in 3A and 2A.


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#2 floridahsfootball

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Posted 03 July 2013 - 03:45 PM

This reminds me of the situation we have here in Florida. The past cycle we had two districts here that were eligible for the playoffs without having to play a down and we will have again this cycle with two districts again (one the same and one different than the last cycle).

 

I know this is more thanks to a team dropping out like they did, but here its because we have two too many classifications. Florida needs to go back to six, but we don't see it happening anytime soon. As what one person told me "once you let them put their hand into the candy that is it, you can't take it back."


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Posted 09 July 2013 - 09:57 PM

I think I remember seeing at least one other four team 3A district. 0-10 was the first thing that crossed my mind.
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Posted 09 July 2013 - 10:05 PM

I think I remember seeing at least one other four team 3A district. 0-10 was the first thing that crossed my mind.

 

No, no others in 3A, but there IS now a three-team district in 1A D2 (District 2.)  All three teams in that district will make the playoffs.


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Posted 10 July 2013 - 09:17 PM

So, what happens if one of the 4 teams is ruled inelligible?  Some lucky team gets a 1st Round bye?


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Posted 11 July 2013 - 10:18 AM

So, what happens if one of the 4 teams is ruled inelligible?  Some lucky team gets a 1st Round bye?

 

That's an interesting question.  I assume one of the teams in 12-3A would wind up with a first-round bye.

 

Also -- since this year each 3A district will get two Division 1 teams and two Division 2 teams, would they lose a D1 or D2 team?


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Posted 18 July 2013 - 02:17 PM

So, what happens if one of the 4 teams is ruled inelligible?  Some lucky team gets a 1st Round bye?

 
No telling yet. The UIL website is pretty quiet on the subject. Their "Contstitution & Contest Rules" still say that only 3 teams will advance. The only mention of the new rule that I can find is a PDF called "UIL 2013-14 Rule Changes, Athletics."

It lists some General changes that apply to basically all sports, which include, but are not limited to, the following...

"-Add a fourth playoff team advancing from each district in team sport activities in conferences 2A and 3A.
-Modify the penalty structure for coaches’ ejection.
-Create a six-conference alignment by renaming the current conferences for the 2014-2015 school year."
 
And there are also two Football-specific changes:
 
Create a split conference alignment for 3A in 2014-15.
Limit full contact practice for football players

 

 

And at the bottom of the page... "Unless noted otherwise, effective August 1, 2013"


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Posted 18 July 2013 - 02:37 PM

PS. This rule means that 128 out of 182 teams in 3A will make the playoffs. That's 70.33% !!! 
 

2A will be the next closest at 58.72% of teams.

% of Teams in Playoffs:
5A: 52.24%
4A: 51.61%

3A: 70.33%

2A: 58.72%

1A: 57.49%

6M: 46.72%

 

(I always hated math, but I like stats)

*sorry for the double-post.


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Westlake Chaparrals - 2013

8/30 @ Cedar Park
9/6 vs. Temple
9/13 vs. A&M Consolidated
9/20 @ Cibolo Steele
9/27 @ Bowie
10/4 vs. Akins
10/10 @ Anderson
10/18 vs. Del Valle
11/1 @ Lake Travis
11/8 vs. Austin High


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Posted 18 July 2013 - 03:06 PM

PS. This rule means that 128 out of 182 teams in 3A will make the playoffs. That's 70.33% !!! 
 

2A will be the next closest at 58.72% of teams.

% of Teams in Playoffs:
5A: 52.24%
4A: 51.61%

3A: 70.33%

2A: 58.72%

1A: 57.49%

6M: 46.72%

 

(I always hated math, but I like stats)

*sorry for the double-post.

Yeah, that's ridiculous.  In addition to the aforementioned four-team district in 3A, there are also a bunch of five-team districts.  You could win one game all year and make the playoffs.  Of course, it's all about money.  There's a lot of revenue involved in adding an extra round to the playoffs.

 

I suspect that UIL is going to expand 3A (or 4A, as it will then be known) a bit in the 2014 realignment, though.


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#10 WestlakeTech

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Posted 18 July 2013 - 04:04 PM

Definitely about money.

"Fifteen percent of the gross receipts of post-district games shall be paid to the League to maintain a fund for investigating eligibility questions and to supplement printing, salary, office appropriations relating to football, and for the purchase of medals, trophies and awards in UIL state meets. The radio broadcast
receipts and the telecast receipts are considered a part of the game receipts in all post-district games."
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Westlake Chaparrals - 2013

8/30 @ Cedar Park
9/6 vs. Temple
9/13 vs. A&M Consolidated
9/20 @ Cibolo Steele
9/27 @ Bowie
10/4 vs. Akins
10/10 @ Anderson
10/18 vs. Del Valle
11/1 @ Lake Travis
11/8 vs. Austin High





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